What the market is

Win and both teams to score is a single bet with two conditions: the named side must win the match, and both teams must score at least once. A 2-1 or 3-2 win settles it as a winner; a 1-0 or 2-0 win does not, because the losing side failed to score, and any draw or defeat loses it.

It is priced as one combined market by the bookmaker. It is not the same as backing the win and backing both teams to score separately, because the two outcomes are linked.

How the selection on this page is made

Each fixture shows the side bookmakers rate most likely to win in a match where both teams score, taken from a real bookmaker price for this combined market. The probability is worked out from that bookmaker's full set of six outcomes — each side to win, or the draw, with both teams scoring or not — with the margin removed. Fixtures without that full set of prices do not appear, and nothing is calculated from a formula.

A price is also checked for consistency: the combined bet can never pay less than the win alone or both teams to score alone. A price that breaks that rule is treated as an error and left out.

The selection never contradicts the main prediction for the same fixture. If our main pick is under 2.5 goals or both teams to score: no, this market cannot also land, so the fixture is left off this page.

Reading the numbers

Because two things must happen together, even the most likely selection usually sits between twenty-five and forty-five per cent. Prices are therefore long — often between 2.50 and 4.00 — and runs of losing selections are a normal part of this market.

This is why it is not used as a main prediction on PunterPick. It is a higher-risk market, listed here for readers who enjoy it, and it suits small stakes.

A worked example

Take a home side rated about sixty per cent to win, in a match where both teams to score is rated about fifty-five per cent. It is tempting to multiply the two and expect roughly a third, but the two outcomes are not independent: a home win often comes with a clean sheet, especially from a strong defence, so the combined figure is usually lower than the simple product.

That is why this page uses the bookmaker's own price for the combined bet rather than building one from the separate markets. If the listed probability is thirty per cent, the selection is expected to lose roughly seven times in ten, and the price reflects exactly that.

When it is worth considering

When you expect a clear favourite but also expect the weaker side to find a goal — for example an attacking favourite with an uncertain defence, or an underdog that scores regularly at home.

If your view is only about the winner, the match result page expresses it at a shorter price. If your view is only that both sides will score, the both teams to score page does the same.

Common mistakes

Choosing a favourite that keeps clean sheets. The stronger the defence of the winning side, the more often the bet fails on a 1-0 or 2-0.

Treating the longer price as value in itself. The price is long because the outcome is less likely, not because the market has made a mistake.

Adding several of these selections into one accumulator. Each one already carries two conditions, so the chance of every leg landing falls very quickly.

How this page is kept honest

Every price shown is a real bookmaker price at the time of publication, and the percentage is that bookmaker's own figure with the margin removed. Selections are published once, before kick-off, and are not changed during the day. We make no claim about how often these selections win or how much they return.